we have a gun being brandished here as well. imaging you have intimidation at the least. armed robbery ended up being the conviction. >> correct. if somebody has a weapon, that changes the entire dynamic. it is already a felony for robbery if you are taking stuff by threat of force. when you introduce a dangerous weapon such as a firearm, even if the firearm is never shot, it is still enough to instill fear into the person, and so that is when it becomes an armed robbery. >> o.j. simpson said he didn't know guns were involved sdchlt that matter? >> it matters if the victim saw or perceived a gun. that matters. criminal defendant that is serve a lot of time have little else to think about except how to over turn the conviction. of course the person that stood by them the entire time now becomes the natural target to be removed in this sense of vacating their trial and trying to get a new trial. this is not unusual at all when a defendant that's convicted and sentenced for a long-term now turns on his lawyer.