not to be democratic, a liberal, are you accused of being a sellout, an uncle tom. i like robert zimmerman a lot, he's my friend and a white elitist. the underlying sentiment where we have re-elected the first african-american president, we have so many areas of progress in this country and areas of race and it seems to me the liberal establishment can't stomach having african-american conservatives. >> i've heard that from more than one person, robert. liberals are among the most racist, it's not politically correct to say it. >> it's also -- it's a dumpstb stereotype. m ron is not just a man who i have personal respect for, but he gives conservatism a good name this is not really