that is where we begin, a banner month for hiring and not a second too soon. let me show you better than expected numbers for the labor department. 216,000 jobs created in march and just as important, a stair step trend in the right direction. you can see it there now. the economy has added 1.5 million jobs since early 2010. another good sign, the jobless rate is trending down, 9% of the start of 2011, 8.8% now, that is the lowest in two years. where are these new jobs coming from? >> in march business services hired $78,000 and it was another good month for health care and leisure and hospitality and manufacturing as well. joining me to put the figures into context is a financial planner who wants to make all of us a little smarter about money. ryan mac, nice you're with us today. are we seeing what you would call a meaningful improvement in the labor market? >> this is definitely a positive step in the right direction. 1.5 million jobs over the past year since businesses started to hire. private sector jobs, 230,000 jobs is the public sector, a little problem over the past couple months. we lost 14,000 jobs in the last month. over the last year or so in the public sector we lost a quarter million jobs and half of those coming from teachers and firemen and firefighters and what not. definitely a right step in the right direction. there's a report in the new york times that did say if there's a one negative aspect of this, many of the new jobs that individuals are hiring, many people are finding it hard to pay for basic living expenses and still living check to check, even with the additional job. i would like to see the personal income did uptick this week. i would like to see more living within their means more effectively and the bigger picture in the whole thing is looking at the housing market to make sure we start seeing a recovery. foreclosure, moving forward, still have work to do. >> getting back to the job numbers, do you think we're starting to make up actually for the millions of jobs that were wiped out in the recession? >> i mean, we are. we saw almost -- as you state, almost 8 million jobs we lost completely but we have 13.5 unemployed and maybe 8 million individuals underemployed or working part-time and 4 million individuals who are just completedy said forget about it, don't want to look for any work any longer. i think the manufacturing sector, if we start seeing a lot of those jobs upticking because we start creating things in america, that will start to be able to create more jobs that we lost or shipped overseas. that was a positive thing we did see. we're definitely moving a step in the right direction. manufacturing and that sector, i would like to see more strong in the next month. >> we'll live it there. ryan mack, thank you. in a deadly attack on u.n. staff in afghanistan, at least 12 people were killed at the u.n. assistance mission after a protest over the reported burning of a koran in florida. you may remember pastor teri jones who stirred up disgust when he planned to torch the holy book on the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. he followed through last month with little notice outside of con agree gas station. we don't know all of the details but the special envoy is headed up there as we speak and we'll bring you more as this new information comes out to us. now to libya, where both sides appear to be muling a common strategy, an exit strategy. gadhafi still has rebels on the round but his own top officials are fleeing as well. moussa koussa to britain, treki to egypt. sources tell cnn gadhafi may be open to dialogue with the opposition possibly even open to giving up power, but only to someone within his inner circle, possibly his son and only after rebels stop fighting. a senior aid is in london for back channel talks with the britts in the opposition capital of benghazi, leaders called on him to back down and step down. that's not in the plan today. rebels are mounting yet another push near a town that's changed hands now six times in six weeks. libya's neighbor to the east, egypt, helped inspire protest throughout the arab world. weeks of demonstrations forced its long-time president hosni mubarak from office. things quieted down for a while but thousands of protesters are back in cairo's tahrir square today. that's where we find ivan watson. egypt was seen as a model, inspiration for so many other uprisings in the region, but has anything really actually changed is our question for you today? >> well, there's certainly a demonstration taking place in the now world famous tahrir square. i'll get out of the way. you can see it's night time and there are thousands of people there, randi. this is being billed as the save the revolution friday here. and the reason is because some of the revolutionaries, the youth that helped topple a dictator about two months ago, they are frustrated. they feel they are being marginalized by the current ruling military council here, being left out of crucial decisions and so far behind on forming themselves as a formal political movement far behind the islamist groups here who have been battling against the secular government for decades, that they feel they are being left behind and they are trying to reinject some life into what they are claiming as their home revolution, randi. >> they accomplished so much before so i'm sure they are hoping to do the same this time around. i want to talk about the human rights abuses we're hearing about. what have you been able to find out there on the ground? >> reporter: one of the complaints that the crowd behind me has, there are still military rule, emergency law in place for more than 20 years and new law proposed that would make these types of pro tests illegal. now so far the authorities have allowed this to take place peacefully. on march 9th, the army came in and broke up a similar rally using force. one of the people who was caught up in the detentions was a musician who we interviewed and saw him playing rebel music in the square night after night during the revolution in january and february. he was detained and actually beaten by soldiers for hours, he says, in the egyptian museum, which effectively became a torture chamber that day for many demonstrators. we saw his terrible wounds and bruises after that incident took place. take a listen to what he told us a few days later. >> translator: the torture took for hours. they removed my clothes and used sticks and metal rods and wires and hopes and hoses whips and electrocution, an officer would jump in the air and land on my face with his legs. >> ivan, that is such a horrific story. i'm sure not the only one that you've heard. >> reporter: no, no, i've talked to a number of people who have described being pulled in by soldiers here and beaten when they've tried to organize protests. we've continually asked the ruling military council about this, they flatly deny any charges of torture and deny reports in amnesty international of 17 female demonstrators detained and strip searched and photographed by male soldiers and subjected to what they called virginity tests. the military flatly denying all of this. these are, of course, signs of concern for people who really help for major changes after hosni mubarak was overthrown. >> ivan watson there. thank you. we have good news to share out of syria, a man we told you about yesterday is now free. if you were watching, you saw his mother's desperate plea. >> i want to see my son. i have no idea where he is. >> she now has an answer. an egyptian american was released today to the egyptian embassy after being held by syrian authorities for a week. he had been working for an oil company in syria and had taken part in protests in egypt. his family last saw him on state tv this past saturday being interrogated and accused of trying to export egypt's revolution to syria, a cousin spoke with radwan on the phone and hoping to return as soon as possible. we're watching this nuclear disaster in japan and wondering, could it ever happen here and if it does, who might pay the cost of that destruction? 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[ male announcer ] hurry in to your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for 1.99% financing during our certified pre-owned sales event through may 2nd. and more. if you replace 3 tablespoons of sugar a day with splenda® you'll save 100 calories a day. that could help you lose up to 10 pounds in a year. that's how splenda® is sweet...and more. a new study shows fertility rates among women over 40 are going up. elizabeth cohen joins us here to break down the numbers. what's so interesting though is that overall birth rates are going down, right? >> right but three chieers for s women over 40. >> yeah. >> i'm one -- i know you're helping. >> i had my last one at 40. >> it's 40 plus? >> right. if you look at births 2006 to -- 2007 to 2009, up 6%, that's a pretty big increase in just two years. >> why is that happening? >> i think more women are aware of fertility drugs and the drugs have gotten better and more women are putting off child birth because they have a career and say, well, i can wait until after 40. >> there's a lot to do before you're 40. >> we're very busy. >> what about the health risks, as you age we hear it is more dangerous for the child and even for the mom? >> first of all you're less likely to get pregnant in the first place and higher likelihood of drown's syndrome, diabetes, but the numbers are not huge. the increases are huge but the raw numbers aren't. still your odds are way with you that your child is going to be fine. >> overall the birth rates are down. what's happening with the younger women? >> for older woman, up 6%. for women between 20 and 24, that went down 9% in the same time period. so while older women were going there, these younger women were saying, you know, maybe i'm going to hold back a little bit. >> i kind it kind of inspiring. >> it is. >> as women of that age, that can it happen. the reason why the younger women aren't having babies isn't so inspiring, probably has a lot to do with the economy. the economy was suffering during that time and a lot of families decided they couldn't handle it at that time. >> i'm sure you know with how many children -- >> four. >> you know how expensive it is to raise a child. >> that's true. thank you. we appreciate it. good to see you. two chicago officers face scanned la lougs allegations. those details are next. allegra with fruit juice. what? yeah, it's on the label. really? here, there's nothing about juice on the zyrtec® label. what? labels are meant to be read. i'd be lost without you. i knew you weren't allergic to me. 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[ male announcer ] get zyrtec®'s proven allergy relief and love the air®. 25 minutes past the hour. time to update our top stories, starting with encouraging news about jobs. the economy added 216,000 jobs last month, more than many economists had expected. and the unemployment rate fell to 8.8, the lowest rate in two years. american airlines flight made an emergency landing at dayton international airport this morning after several people reported feeling ill. according to airport officials american flight 547 from washington to chicago diverted to dayton after several passengers complained about the air quality on board. reports say at least two passengers were taken to the hospital. in afghanistan, at least 12 people were killed in an attack at the operation center of the u.n. assistance mission in mazare sha rif. four afghans were killed and others wounded in an attack that followed the demonstration against the reported burning of a koran in florida last month. this very interesting story that had a lot of us talking. a michigan woman gave birth to twin miracles. she was born with two ut russes, she did get pregnant in both and the twin girls were born seven weeks early and will spend the next three weeks in the icu where doctors are confident that they will both be fine. what a double miracle. this is only the fourth time this type of birth has been reported anywhere in the world. >> we'll hear from t boone pickens, talking alternative energy. you don't want to miss it. 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we'll touch base with our pentagon correspondent right after this. there's no letting up for retreating libyan rebels being pounded by relentless barrage of tanks and artillery fire. the u.s. is making a major shift in strategy. chris lawrence reports. >> reporter: the u.s. is calling off its missiles and jets that have been bombing moammar gadhafi's tanks and troops. >> we would not be participating in the strike missions. >> reporter: u.s. senators say america has holstered its most effective weapons when they are needed most in libya. >> your timing is exquisite. >> reporter: john mccain says gadhafi has rowdied the rebels. >> that's when we announced that the united states is advocating its leadership role and removing the most valuable assets. >> reporter: the fight is over the a-10 and ac 130s used to attack in and around cities. they fly low, closer to the target and shoot machine gunfire instead of just dropping bombs. >> you pull them off, they are not flying and there's no -- >> i haven't pulled them off. >> reporter: bad weather in libya grounded the gun ships the last few days. in that gap, gadhafi forces regrouped. the planes will fly for a few more days until nato takes total control. >> the idea that the ac 130s and the a-10s are grounded unless the play goes to hell is so unnerving i can't express it adequately. >> >> reporter: it was argued the u.s. needs to do more not less. >> would it be unlawful for some nation, including ours, to drop a bomb on him to end this thing? >> well, president ragen tried that. >> that doesn't mean we shouldn't try again. >> i think it would probably break the coalition. >> who would be mad at us if we dropped the bomb on gadhafi and why would they be mad? >> reporter: there doesn't seem to be agreement on what the allies want. do have he to be killed or as an incentive to stand down, given sanctuary in another country. >> i don't see how this ends. >> chris, good to see you. is there an answer to senator collins question? >> well, secretary gates laid out a couple possible ways it could end, including a member of his own family killing gadhafi and libyan army fracturing or the lack of supplies and theal lied attacks degreati graeding the army to the point where the liberals get the upper hand. >> are they capable, when we talk about the u.s. laying off the air strikes? >> that's going to be the big question and especially do they have the will and mandate to continue some of these strikes on gadhafi's forces. they don't anything specifically like the a-10 or ac 130 but those planes will be sort of put on stand by. if the situation ever got dire enough, the nato commander could come back and ask u.s. for those, although it would have to come back to the united states and go up our chain of command. secretary gates has argued that between iraq, afghanistan, troops also helping out in japan, there's not enough manpower and even a reduced mission in libya is going to cost american taxpayers about $40 million a month, also says there's just not enough money to go around. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon. thank you. ali velshi spoke with billionaire oil man t. boone pickens about alternative forms of energy and reducing the american addiction to foreign oil. here's some of that conversation. >> the thing is going to carry us and i hate to say this, it's not because it's patriot i can not because it's clean and all, it's cheap. natural gas on gasoline gallon is $1 to $1.5 cheaper than diesel and gasoline. when you look at one mcf of natural gas, it's about $5. >> right. >> it's equal to 7 gallons of diesel, which is $25. that is not sustainable. you cannot have commodities doing the same job and be that far apart on price. so natural gas is going to move up on price. but when it does, it then triggers your wind. you cannot have a wind project because it's priced off the margin, which is natural gas. >> you need natural gas to cause people -- you need oil prices to cause people to use more natural gas, which then puts pressure on natural gas prices which cause people to get into wind and solar? 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>> it's a conditional cease fire and the principle condition is there will be raging change at the end. the condition of the cease fire in the battle field that gadhafi's forces must remove their snipers and militias and mer sean narryes according to the rebels and must end the seizes of the towns where tiny rebel forces are surrounded by gad haf gadhafi's army. there's no indication that the government is going to go for that at this time but we do understand an envoy of one of the son's of moammar gadhafi, the one who has taken a principle leadership role here is in london. it's not clear what meeting they have having there but it does seem to indicate that some diplomatic channels are being pursued at this time. hearing the rebels talk about ways to end the fighting and from the regime side, there are indications in the background, there have been for some time that ultimately gadhafi could go once the fighting is over in the country to the two positions are not dissimilar, but they are still quite far a part. a lot of diplomatic leg work if it can be done remains to be done. >> such interesting developments. i know you had spoken with the aide before he left for london, if i recall that correctly. did he give you any indication if there was a transition of power to his son? would gadhafi have any type of role? would moammar gadhafi have any type of role in this government? >> the indications are that he would -- he even now characterizes himself as sort of the father of the nation and he says we all misunderstand him that he's the leader. look, he is the leader and there's no two ways about it. but it's not how he views himself. how he views it and how i understand other people close to leadership view it is that he would remove himself from the day to day political protests, that he would essentially completely take himself out of the real political running of the country and he would see himself as some kind of distant father figure. it does seem to indicate that perhaps there is some mutually agreeable ground where gadhafi is not running the country. so many questions remain. who represents each side? who trusts whom? how do you build that trust? and can really the opposition stomach having one of gadhafi's sons playing a principle role in the process. >> and nic, what do you make of the high level defections we're seeing from the regime? >> it's significant. someone like moussa koussa will be attuned to what's going on about the regime. there will be decisions that he's unhappy with and he may well have decided that's this was the time to jump ship, the former foreign minister and there will be others that look at his decision and wonder if it's time to jump too. there's no doubt it gives concern to gadhafi but will not bring him tumbling down overnight. others will be looking at this and that will be a worry for him. >> nic robertson, thank you. addario, one of the journalists captured by pro-gadhafi forces in libya spoke about her hair rowing experience. >> a guy reached over from the front seat and started carresing my hair, like a mother would a son or daughter and he started touching my face, very gently and saying this phrase over and over. i said to anthony, what is mort? what is he saying? anthony said, he's telling you you're going to die tonight. and i just -- i mean, what can you say? >> don't miss the second part of an ac 360 prime time exclusive tonight, "new york times" journalists captured by the regime share more stories. 10:00 p.m. eastern. you won't want to miss that interview. this year's college basketball tournament is coming to a close but that doesn't mean the excitement has died down. we'll have a live report from houston next. in a spot reserved for me. it's got 26,000 miles on it now, but i'm gonna take it to a thousand million. 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what's at stake here, two powerhouse basketball schools. what's your take on that one? >> well, this is really a matchup of heavyweights. usually when people study the ncaa tournament and the reason why they love it is there's upsets and cinderella stories. most of the time by the elite 8s, the sweet 16s, the heavy weights where are we are in the final four. that's where we find cuconn and kentucky. uconn has been built from the ground up. john caliperry started at umass and was rivals with jim can hewn. they don't like each other too. . now he's with kentucky one of the real blue bloods in the tourney. they're pretty young teams but very storied programs. i think it's going to come down to the two guards, walker of uconn and brandon knight of kentucky who has growed great maturation to lead kentucky here to the final four. >> i want to put you on the spot. who's your pick? >> well, i like butler to beat vcu. it's hard to go against vcu. i like kentucky very slightly to beat uconn. then it's very hard to pick against the underdog, but i like kentucky to cut down the nets on monday night. >> all right, thank you b.j. we won't hold you to that. don't worry. congress is fighting over what to cut from the federal budget. but do we really know what they're actually fighting over? jessica yellin will show us the results of a budget i.q. test after the break. with the government funded just through next friday, members of congress are fighting over what to cut from the federal budget billions of dollars we all know are at stake, but do we really know what they are actually fighting over? cnn's jessica yellin has the results of a fascinating budget iq test. >> reporter: on capitol hill they're on the verge of a government shutdown because congress wants to slash federal spending, but republicans and democrats can't agree on how much to cut. the biggest fights are over just a handful of programs, including -- >> foreign aid. >> npr food stamps. >> reporter: if trixing those programs will rein in spending, they must make up a huge part of the federal budget, right? well, that's what most americans think. what percentage ever the federal budget do you think we spend on foreign aid? >> 40%. >> 20%. >> reporter: a new cnn opinion research poll found most americans think foreign aid makes up 10% of this year's federal budget. reality check? it's not even close. foreign aid, 0.6% of the 2010 budget? >> really? wow! >> i thought it would be more. >> i thought it was like a big thing. >> reporter: so we asked about a few more. government pensions. >> government pensions. that would probably be 10%? >> probably 10%. >> reporter: according to the poll, that's what most americans think. but the reality? just 3.5%. for public broadcasting, npr. >> zero now, right? maybe 15. >> reporter: most public thinks 5%. reality? less than 0.1%. overall, americans think foreign aid, government pensions, education, food and housing assistance account for 52% of the federal budget. reality, it's just 11.3% of the budget. the bulk of our spending goes to defense, social security, medicare and medicaid. >> we have very skewed perspectives. >> reporter: why do you think that is? >> probably the media. >> we in the media can take some of the blame, but it's also the politicians who are making a small part of the budget a huge part of the budget fight. they're not talking about or touching the biggest challenges, social security, medicare and medicaid. jessica yellin, cnn, washington. after gadhafi, what then? he's not gone yet, but people are talking. after the revolution in egypt, protestor wonder what really changed. and two years after the official end of the great recession, the job market begins to catch up. we begin this morning on a deadly attack on u.n. staff in afghanistan. at least 12 people and maybe as many as 20 were killed today at the u.n. assistance mission in the northern town of mazar-e sharif. the violence came after a protest reportedly overt burning of a koran in florida. you may remember pastor terry jones and the outrage he caused by saying he was going to burn the couka ran. details from afghanistan are still being sorted out. we'll bring you more of the detail as we learn them ourselves. to libya now where both sides appear be mulling a common strategy, an exit strategy. moammar gadhafi has the rebels on the run, but his own top officials are fleeing as well. foreign minister moussa koussa defected this week to britain. former foreign minister treki is in egypt. in tripoli, sources closest to gadhafi say he may be open to dialogue to the opposition, even to giving up p.o.ower. but only to someone close in his sishl elle possibly his son. reportedly saif is in london with talk with the brits. in the opposition capital of benghazi, leaders are called on gadhafi to back down and step down. but a visiting u.n. envoy says both sides need to cease-fire. neither wants to be the first. rebels led by army units that switched sides launched another push near the town of elle braig ga, a town that's changed hands six times in six weeks. in egypt the revolution was quick and it was comparatively peaceful. but was it successful? cnn's ivan watson is there in cairo. egypt such an inspiration for those in libya and throughout the renal, bgion but where is t change that was expected and promised in egypt? >> reporter: well, there are massive changes taking place here and across the arab world, randi. friday is supposed to be the day of prayer, but since these revolutions started sweeping across arab countries last january, they've also become a day of protests. i'm going to get out of the way and zoom in to show you the world-famous tahrir square where thousands of people are still gathered. this was the site of 18 historic, sometimes bloody, days of protest that ended up toppling a dictator hosni mubarak. the people gathered there are many of the young activist, many of them from secular liberal groups who are trying to, as they put it, save the revolution, trying to become relevant again. they feel they've been marginalized a bit by some islamist groups that are very well organized that government pressure has been removed since hosni mubarak was overthrowed and by the ruling military council which has been charting out constitutional reform here and setting up a time schedule for parliamentary and presidential elections. parliamentary elections are in september, and many group are trying to organize political parties for what will be the first free elections egypt wiha seen really in decades. >> ivan, i know you have some souvenirs from the uprising that ousted hosni mubarak. can you show us what they are? >> reporter: well, it is a carnival atmosphere and egyptians are very good businessmen. they've been very quick to capitalize on the revolutionary fervor here. down there you can buy t-shirts like this, the revolution started on january 25th, and these are t-shirts you can pick up for the equivalent of a couple bucks. you can pick up things like bumper stickers where it actually looks more like eye license plate, celebrating january 25th. and just to give you a sense, this is not purely an egyptian movement, we see an awful lot of these down there. these are the libyan rebel flags that are being waved by the rebels in libya across the border. they're very popular here in egypt, these types of demonstrations as well. it also shows the immense amount of sympathy coming from egyptians for the protestors, the opposition movement, across the border against moammar gadhafi in libya and at protests like these i've seen in other arab countries we also see the flags of other countries that have sparked these pro-democracy movements, them being waved as well, as a sign of solidarity. >> and i know, you know, we talk quite a bit about egypt and libya these days, but this lael all began in tunisia. so how are things going there? >> reporter: that's right, tunisia was the first successful revolution, and i just got off the phone with the a tunisian friend. there were clashes in the capital between what were described as islamist protestors and riot police. tunisia has had a remarkable change, randi. it went from one-party rule, decades of that, there are now more than 40 political party ahead of elections in july that are scheduled to help write up an entirely new constitution. there's a lot of new political freedom that was never seen before, political police, those are the secret police much feared, no longer on the streets of the capital and in other cities. but the unemployment that was a spark of the revolution still rampant, still thousands of tunisians making the dangerous journey across the mediterranean sea to italy to seek better jobs there every day. randi? >> our ivan watson reporting from tahrir square where i know you've spent a lot of time reporting from over the last few months. we appreciate it. thank you. and some good news out of syria now. a man we told you about yesterday from houston who was detained in syria for alleged espionage is now free. if you were watching you saw had his mother's desperate plea. >> i want to see my son! i have no idea where he is. >> she now has an answer. 32-year-old mohammed radwan, an egyptian-american was released today to the egyptian embassy in dmoos cuss after being held by authorities for a week. he had been working for an oil company in syria and had taken part in protests in egypt. his family last saw him on state tv this past saturday being interrogated and accused of trying to export egypt's revolution to syria. a cousin says she spoke with radwan on the phone. he says he's hoping to return to cairo as soon as possible. here at home, we've had a banner month for hiring. let me show you better than expected numbers from the labor department. take a look. 216,000 jobs created in march, and just as important, a stairstep trend in the right direction. we're going up. the economy now has added 1.5 million jobs since early 2010. another good sign, the jobless rate is trending down, 9% at the start of 2011, now 8.8%, as you can see. that is the lowest in two years. where are these new jobs coming from? in march, business services hired 78,000 people and it was another good month for health care, leisure and hospitality and manufacturing as well. joining me to put these figures into context is a financial planner who wants to make all of us a whole lot smarter about money. ryan mack is founder and president of optimum capital management in new york. ryan, is this good news, are are we really seeing a meaningful improvement? >> we definitely are. they estimated it to be about 180,000 jobs to be added on. now we saw 230,000 private sector jobs added, 14,000 jobs cut from the public sector. the public sector is hurt a little bit, but overall 1.1% uptick in the unemployment rate. a lot of jobs, one of the numbers i'd like to add are the temporary job increasing by about 30,000 jobs. a lot of temporary jobs are the type of jobs people start on in order to train them for possibly more permanent type of positions. so we are seeing a lot of positive upswings in these numbers. i'm optimistic for moving forward. >> where are we losing jobs, though? it isn't all positive. >> again, 8 million, almost, have essentially evaporated since the recession. we have seen approximately 8 million individuals, 8.4 million, who are part-time workers. we're seeing a lot of jobs being cut from the public sector, 250,000 in the last year, over half for teachers in the public sector. if you're a public sector teacher you're probably worried about the pink slip lately. again, a lot of good health care jobs, manufacture jobs, positive as well. but i guess the public sector is really one of the things dragging the economy down. >> and what about, are there -- is there any hope for the long-term unemployed? from what i understand, the average length of unemployment is actually up. >> yeah. about 4 million individuals essentially just say, i give up. again, 8.4 million individuals part time, people saying, you know what? i'm just not looking for a job any longer. but i think we just have to be a little bit more optimistic, again, with manufacturing jobs, being able to drait more things and putting more investment in america, more of those jobs will start coming back home. what i advise everybody to do all the time is investment education, make sure they're going to locek community collegs and retrain themselves. community college are off the meter in terms of enrollment this year. a lot of folks are seeming to get the message, you know, the 8 million jobs are probably not coming back. i have to retrain myself and get into a different sector to make sure i can actually find employment again. >> who is finding employment, men, women, whites, minorities? >> well, a lot of the men right now have been some of the highest individuals who are unemployed. men right now, especially in construction, aloft these construction -- that's why a lot of the stimulus funding was very helpful in many states because a lot of the men were being laid off. that started to help. a lot of the women, especially in the health care sector, are some of the individuals who are funding the most employment right now. especially nurses sector, i.t. sector as well. that's predominantly in the i.t. sector was a male-dominated industry, but we're starting to see women decrease the differences between those numbers in the i.t. sector. the women are definitely doing a lot better in the recovery moving forward. >> we'll take what we can get, ryan. >> we're getting there slow but surely, one step at a time. again, start loonging for the silver lining, get retaening, you'll be just fine. >> ryan mack, thank you. japan's nuclear crisis forced tens of thousands to evacuate. here at home, one nuclear plant is near millions of tpeople. so what are the plans of getting them out of harm's way if disaster strikes? [♪...] >> male announcer: book now, save up to 65%. call 1-800-sandals. with no end in sight for japan's nuclear crisis, a japanese minister said today it could be months before tens of thousands of rez deptds are allowed to return home. the disaster there has many americans wondering, what if something like that happens here? are we prepared? in new york, 20 million people live within a 50-mile radius of the indian point nuclear power plant. allan chernoff looks at current plans for evacuation, whether they would work if there is a serious accident. >> reporter: in the event of an accident at the indian point nuke clier power plant, some nearby residents fear they'd be stuck, unable to flee. >> i don't think we'd be able to evacuate sufficiently. >> reporter: by law, indian point is required to have an emergency planning zone, a ten-mile radius from the plant. westchester county would try to evacuate residents gradually. >> the evacuation may initially be for people within a two-mile ring and five-mief downwind span. >> reporter: the direction of the wind could determine who needs to evacuate. since indian point is located right on the hudson river in the valley between the hills, the wind tends to blow downstream towards manhattan. in japan, u.s. authorities are urging americans within 50 miles of the crippled fukushima daiichi plant to evacuate. that would enkps new york city, just 25 miles away, in the u.s. rush hour in new york, heaven forbid there's a nuclear accident anywhere near here. there is no way everyone is evacuating quickly. it would be nuclear gridlock, practically speaking. we couldn't really evacuate new york city. >> well, there's not a scenario we have where the radiation that would go out would require an evacuation of new york city. that's been at least identified up to this point. >> reporter: the county executive says they're well-prepared for a ten-mile evacuation. if a 50-mile were ordered -- >> we'd have to go back to the drawing board tomorrow and work day and night with multiple agencies, jurisdictions. >> allan joins me live in fr new york. you talk about ten miles. is ten miles enough? >> well, that's the question now. nobody really knows because what's hatched in japan appears to change all the thinking that the nrc, that fema had in place, as we've reported, ten miles is the emergency planning zone. but in japan they're saying 50 miles. so now county, state executives, all over the nation, don't really know. >> yeah. and, of course, with this there really is no room for error. i mean, this would require everyone to follow pretty strict orders. >> yes. but how can we guarantee that, right? if people hear there's been a nuclear accident and radiation is being emitted, lots of people certainly could panic. so do they all listen to the instructions? i don't know if we can count on that. >> all right, allan chernoff watching it for us. thank you, allan. very interesting report. thousands of boston-area homeless women now get free health care, thanks to this week's cnn hero. we'll introduce you to her, next. more than 2,000 women in boston are homeless, often living unpredictable and unstable lives. this week's cnn hero is giving them something they desperately need, free quality health care in the shelters. her name is roseanne means. >> you okay? every week i talk to women who are sleeping you ining outside. it's only 17 degrees out. i didn't want you to get frozen. so much pain and suffering right on the fringes of our perspective. do you need some help, hon? dos boss ton, despite all the medical resources for the homeless population, i was seeing very few of the women using the services. for women who are poor or homeless or battered to deal with a system of health care becomes overwhelming. they don't have an address, a phone. there are lots of emotional issues, psychiatric issues. i just didn't like the idea that they were falling through the cracks. i'm dr. roseanne na means, and i bring high-quality medical care to women and children in the shelters in boston. the women come into the shelters to get warm, to feel safe and we're there. come on in! there's no registration, we're not charging anything. if they want to come see us, we'll use that moment to try to build a relationship. >> this is my safe tty net righ here. >> the women learn to trust us as ambassadors of the health care system. god bless. over time, we can teach them to use the system as it was intended and eventually they do move forward. >> because i knew she really dare cared i started wanting to take care of myself. >> i love these women no matter what. you're doing a great job. that starts to get taken inside. if i matter to somebody else, maybe i matter to myself. >> roseanne and her team have served 2500 women and children a year for the last decade. all of this year cnn heroes by the way are chosen from people you nominate. so log on to cnnheroes.com to nominate someone you think is changing the world. we'd love to hear their story. 22 minutes past the hour. time for a look at our top stories. sources close to libyan leader moammar gadhafi tell cnn gadhafi could conceivably give up power but only to someone within his inner circle and only after rebels stop fighting. rebels say gadhafi has to stop fighting and neench side wants to go first. a new rebel offensive is under way led by army units that have switched sides. in afghanistan, at least 12 people and maybe as many as 20 were killed today at the u.n. assistance mission in in the north. the dead include u.n. workers and guards and soldiers who were helping to protect the compound. the violence came after a protest reportedly over the burning of a koran in florida. house speaker john boehner said congress would keep the u.s. government running beyond an april 8th deadline. negotiators are trying to cut roughly $33 million from the 2011 budget. house republicans originally wanted about $100 billion in cuts. although the numbers are not set in stone, they've begun drawing up a list of specific spending cuts. >>. >> coming up next, the final report from especially correspondent philippe cousteau's amazing journey to the arctic circle. chad myers is here now. i think, chad, a lot of people in the northeast probably saw the weather forecast and thought this was an april fool's joke. >> it was punxsutawney phil who promised the early spring. new york city, boston, bangor just a mess. if it isn't raining, it's mixing around and snow in the poconos. even pictures out of boston as to where it was snowing earlier. it's tapered off a bit but the airport not doing bit. yeah, that's what you wanted to do on your spring day right there. very pleasant. that's only a dust compared to this. hope, maine, picked up a foot with new sharon the same, 12 inches of new snow on april 1st. and the april 1st snow is always heavy and sloppy, heavy to move. be careful if you're trying to move it because it could be kind of an ugly, heavy lifting. laguardia, boston, newark, philadelphia, you get the idea. laguardia there it says ground stop. otherwise that just means planes trying to get to laguardia are unable to take off from their destination, where they're leaving from, they can't get in the air because there's too many planes in the air right now. otherwise the delays at new york city about 75 minutes to an hour. getaway friday? no one is getting away anytime soon. >> this isn't good. i know you watch this stuff certainly more than i do. is this common to have snow this late? i don't remember last year. >> it's pretty typical. when you get the cold air that comes down and then you have plenty of gulf moisture in the air, that's why it gets so heavy and mucky. there's going to be the potential for all of this snow into maine and into atlantic canada. the purple spots are a foot or more of snow on sunday. >> aren't you glad we're down south? >> very glad. also very glad we could see severe weather in the middle of next week. watch you for the south. snow or severe weather. watch for tornadoes. >> thanks, chad. for two weeks, we have been documenting special correspondent philippe cousteau's journey to the arctic circle. today marks the final day we'll have his wrup dates for you. cousteau's been an an expedition to study the arctic. dangers range from subzero temperatures to polar bears. he also accomplished a cnn first with our furthest north live shot ever. here's his good-bye. >> it's been an incredible journey exploring the critical science happening here at the catlin ice base. we've been privileged to see the scientists at work up close and personal as they dive in the heart of the their research. we've got a little tiny bit of seawater starting to seep up through the ice. we haven't broken through yet, but we are very close. how much further? >> it's coming. >> whoa! all right! you can continue to follow this amazing arctic adventure both on air and online in the coming weeks and months as we continue our work to unlock the mysteries of this beautiful and awe-inspiring place at the top of the world. >> to recap philippe cousteau's expedition and see some amazing videos, head to cnn.com/ali. well, just in the nick of time. take a look at this. you see that car? well, a veteran tv photographer used to covering the news finds himself a part of a heart-pounding rescue. that harrowing story is next. n k that travels with you. with you when you're ready for the next move. 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[ male announcer ] wells fargo. together we'll go far. here is an update on the latest headlines and some of the stories you may have missed. stocks on wall street are surging as unemployment hilt its lowest level in two years in march and businesses are hiring more. take a look at the latest numbers, 216,000 jobs were added in march. that's better than what economists were expecting. the unemployment rate edged down to 8.8%, the lowest since march of 2009. in libya, opposition leaders gathered in the rebel stronghold of benghazi. they extended the offer of a cease-fire with moammar gadhafi's forces but only under certain conditions which include pulling his forces out and giving libyans freedom of expression. on the front lines, rebels are moving to push gadhafi's forces back, but his troops are amping up their ferocious attacks in various cities along the coast. in classified briefings, the cia told congress gadhafi's troops are killing people in towns where the media aren't present. now there are growing signs his inner circle is cracking under international pressure. just a day after his foreign minister defected we're learning that another of gadhafi's men has done the very same thing, this time gadhafi's top choice as u.n. ambassador. treki defected to egypt. moving further south in africa, the ivory coast, gunfire and explosions erupted in obvious i abidjan. forces loyal to what taurer attacked the home of his opponent today. troops are beefing up their presence on the streets. gbagbo is refusing to give up power after an election. the u.s. is pressuring him to step down immediately. now take a look at this. a lexington television news photographer was traveling to houston when he saw the car hit the median wall. the photographer and another man pulled over before the car caught on fire. >> the people inside were kicking the doors. they couldn't get them open. they were screaming for help. >> cook and the other driver came to the rescue, amazing. just in time. the men smashed out the car windows and pulled out the people inside just moments before that vehicle exploded. incredible bravery. amazingly, the two people inside that car walked away without any major injuries. if all goes according to plans, prince william and kate middleton will have a royal cake. if anarchists and other protestors have their way, the ceremony will also be a royal mess. details about that right after this. . more deadly antigovernment protests in syria today, just one of several countries being rocked by demonstrations. michael holmes joins us with a check of what has happened there. we've seen some deaths there as well. >> yeah. there's reports of deaths, large scale demonstrations. we kind of expected this on friday as well. it was foretold these would happen. but the same thing, thousands of people in different parts of the country as well and again we're hearing of security forces crackdowns yet again. even if these protests are suppressed, the syrian regime is going to have to do something to change it. it's like the genie is out of the bottle now. you can't squish this back in. >> al assad keeps coming out promising -- or the people are hoping for promises -- maybe lift the emergency law. but still there. >> and maybe replace it with an antiterrorism law, which people think would be just as bad. there's miscalculation. it's like he's dealing with new world social media justifiable demands by people with old guard crackdown style tactics. it's just not going to work. it's a big miscalculation. you know, i think eventually the regime is going to realize this, that in the modern days of communication, people aren't going to buy it anymore. they're not going to buy, oh, it's foreigners come in and creating trouble. it's gangs of people. people aren't buying it. >> conspiracy. >> yeah. they're dealing with economic mismanagement. >> you saw the pictures out of egypt today. >> yeah. >> massive protests there. >> huge. >> the friday to save the revolution as it's being called. >> that's right. friday to save the revolution. also called a day of cleansing as well. what you've got there is something we talked about back when it happened, if there was disappointment among the protestors, that this would continue. we're seeing that now, a dissatisfaction, anger over a proposal to ban protests. the people who started the revolution in egypt are worried they're losing control of it. they're also worried the parliamentary elections coming up in september, because of the way the mubarak ran things, there's no democratic infrastructure there. they've fallen behind the islamist groups, the islam brotherhood who have been a party for many years. they're ready to go for the elections. those just trying to form opposition parties are not. they want to slow things down. a lot of concern things aren't going the way they hoped. >> that sounds like a lot of countries in the region. i feel like we could tick through every country and talk about all the problems. >> right. >> michael, thank you. >> good to see you. it is the host anticipated event in years in britain as well as much of the rest of the world. the royal wedding between prince william and kate middleton. around arcists and others would love to turn it into a royal mess. man plans are being put in place to make sure that doesn't happen. dan rivers from london. >> reporter: this is the nightmare scenario for those planning the royal wedding, anarchists attacking a car attacking the royal family. it in this occasion it was prince charles and camille la. this is the same car that will be used to take kate middleton to the wedding. anarchists are vowing to do their best to interfere with the best. >> for the royal wedding we'll see what we call a disruption spectacular. >> reporter: charlie veitch is an ex-city banker who was laid off and now a committed anarchist protester. he was among this student protest against aus tirty cuts lasts year and is warning there will be more of the same on april twe29th, which he describes -- >> shock and awe, a lot of fireworks, people dressed in black. it will involve a lot of very, very loud music. >> reporter: security expert roy ram shows me the aftermath of the latest protest. >> you see them here doing this kind of damage, which is just completely -- >> this is just one window of hundreds-absolutely. >> reporter: he says the royal wedding presents an incredibly difficult challenge. >> the police have got a job to get the public in, close up to the wedding, but they've got to keep the people wanting to cause disorder and damage like this away from the royal wedding. it could be immensely disruptive. it's a very unenviable position for the police. >> reporter: the biggest challenge for the police is getting evidence before the route. there's talk of stop and search powers. the problem is, who do they stop and search? experts say intelligence before the big day will be crucial. anarchist web sites are already humming with references to the wedding. >> there are plans, which are being passed around online in encrypted forum and encrypted e-mail, which the government cannot hack, to basically disrupt the procession route as well. >> reporter: but knowing exactly where to deploy riot police is tough. the protestors could strike at almost any location in central london. >> there's a lot of chatter out there, no real intelligence. but people have a right to protest, we have to bear in mind. >> reporter: the anarchists will have to blend in with a crowd like this, and these staunch royalists could be the best defense the police have. >> i don't think it will be very easy for the anarchists to infiltrate. the great majority would stop that. on the other hand, if there was a pint of paint thrown at any of the royal vips, that would be a worldwide embarrassment. >> reporter: an embarrassment the police try to avoid, anarchists would consider it a huge victory. >> speaking of the royal wedding, i had to bring michael back in. i have to get your take on prince william -- >> that's not very nice. >> now saying he's not going to wear the wedding band. >> you know, prince charles never wore a wedding band either. he's decided he won't hap wear one. >> why is that? >> he really hasn't said. >> see, if i was kate -- >> i don't know if it's a military thing. >> i would say, you're wearing it. >> he can't go to the pub and say, i'm not married. >> right. >> she'll be wearing one, her ring will be partly made of this rare welsh gold from a particular gold mine. sort of a royal tradition for a long time. >> that sounds beautiful. >> i can just see him going to the pub and saying, i'm not married. >> yeah. he would never do that! he's a prince. >> he would never get away with it. >> all right. that's good stuff. glad you hung around for that one. see you tomorrow. a steep drop in deadly accident on america's roads. who is taking part of the credit and how did the recession help possibly? s on america's roads. who is taking part of the credit and how did the recession help possibly? so is it seems american roads are becoming safer. that's the focus of today's "big breakdown." transportation officials say last year traffic fatalities fell to their lowest level since 1949. preliminary figures do show that almost 32,800 people died in traffic zenlaccidents in 2010 compared to nearly 34,000 in 2009. the 2010 number represents a 25% drop from 2005 when more than 43,000 people were actually killed. take a look at this. experts say different factors crick contributed to the decline, like vehicle rollover help, and others. the recession and high unemployment rates are cite as possible reasons many young people weren't traveling as much. transportation secretary ray lahood thinks his policies also played a big role. >> i'm going to take a little bit of credit here on our two years of really hammering on distracted driving. we're not where we want to be, but we know, with good laws and good enforcement, people will put their cell phones down and their blackberries. >> while the numbers dropped a lot during the first half of 2010, they started to creep up a bit in the third and fourth quarters. lahood says that doesn't mean we'll see a sets back this year. that's what he says at least. now, as for the worst year on record for traffic fatalities? that was the year 1972 when more than 54,000 people died on american rhodes. the deportation of 4-year-old american citizen emily ruiz has shed light on one particular argument in the immigration debate. how should we treat illegal parents of american children? the "stream team" will tackle this subject. next welcome back. 4-year-old emily ruiz was reunited with her family on wednesday after arriving from guatemala. she was deported there a few weeks ago, even though she's an american citizen. this because customs officials would not allow her grandfather to enter the u.s. this incident has renewed a heated immigration debate, how do you treat illegal parents of american children? and really how do you treat the children themselves? that's the question we want to ask today's "stream team." frank sherry is the founder and executive director of america's voice. jessica vaughn the senior policy analyst at the center for immigration stud ystudies. frank i want to talk about these kids. one texas lawmaker called these babies, quote, terror babies. is there a national security concern about these babies born on u.s. soil to illegal parents? >> no. this is a imagined threat made up by the far right if somehow people are going to be born here and come back and attack us. there's no evidence of this. the real question is, what do we do about the fact we have 11 mm-h million people here without papers, emily's parents are established, rooted in their communities. do we try to get rid of all of them or find them to meet requirements and eventually become u.s. citizens? >> jessica, what do you think about these so-called terror babies as a lawmaker put it. is that the issue here? >> it already has been a problem. anwar al awlaki is a u.s. citizen simply because his parents were here on temporary visas, a long time ago and they took him back home and raised him abroad and he was radicalized abroad and now he uses his u.s. citizenship against us. it's very well known among national security circles that terrorist groups really value having people who have american citizenship within their ranks because they can travel freely between the united states and other countries without the scrutiny that we put on other visitors, you know, who need to get a visa. >> what about the children themselves? >> well, it is an issue because, you know, someone happens to be born here and is a u.s. citizen, they're raised overseas, and perhaps radicalized overseas, not that all of them are, but many of them are, they also have the ability to transmit that u.s. citizenship to their children, who are raised overseas with no ties whatsoever to our country. and this, you know, is an issue that is difficult for us to control in that lawmakers need to look at it to see if this really makes sense for us to continue in this day and age. >> but, frank, isn't it true that just because you have a child here, you can still be deported, right? >> exactly. >> the child doesn't keep you here automatically. >> exactly. this fantasy about terror baby sz hard to even take seriously. we have many people here who are working, living, they get married, they have children. and we have something like 5 million children whose parents are here illegally. what do we do with them? some are u.s. citizens, some are not. what happens every day is that, as the drag net that has taken place in this locountry looking for people here illegally, people are arrested, families are being ripped apart. the question is, is that wise social policy, best immigration policy, or should we come up with a better way in which we say, people who are rooted here, established here, as part of an overall fix to end illegal immigration, let's deal practically and humanely in the fact we have 11 million people here. >> jessica, what is your response to that? what do you think the answer is? >> well, there are really two facets to this problem. one is people living here as illegal aliens who have children here while they're living here. i don't think they necessarily always come here specifically to have children, but when they do it provides them with access to all of our social welfare programs which imposes enormous costs on communities. but the other side of it is people who come here specifically for the purpose of having a baby who will have a u.s. passport and then raising them overseas. that is an issue that hasn't been discussed as much as it should be, but there are literally tens and tens of thousands of people living overseas who have u.s. passports. they don't consider themselves to be american citizens, but they will wave their passport as kind of an entitlement to come here at some future point if they want to. and that does have national security implications. what it boils down to is that we need to better control how many people get into the united states to begin with. and then this wouldn't be so much of an issue. >> we'll have to leave it there. frank, jessica, we appreciate it. very interesting discussion. certainly not going away anytime soon. thank you both. another battle going on in washington. the oncoming budget shortfall. white house press secretary jay carney maintains that democrats and republicans are close on budget talks. today he reiterated that the president will accept cuts for the good of the american people. >> the president will make tough choices. he will, in the spirit of compromise and finding common ground, accept kucuts that are hard, accept some details that he would not otherwise in an ideal world want to accept. but he believes that the american people expect us to find that common ground, be reasonable. political rhetoric and shooting spillballs is not, i assure you -- and i know you know this -- is not what the american people want. got to take a quick break. next in my "xyz," a slithering snake's final chapter. sort of. 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