the show. some of these episodes people have do van without any plan. they didn't realize how much it was going to cost. and when they don't have professionals working with and making sure that their trades are all line that they're getting their permits, line up the way they need to. they enter spending double what they replied in the most maddening part is if you had us at your home, the expertise that we've done, we've done 1,000 homes if you had us there and we gave you advice and said, if you don't do this, it's all going to go to would you listen to us? >> yeah. yeah they don't listen. >> so you hearing yourself. >> i want everybody right there down the lens come to my camera right now. if we are there to help you and we have 20 plus years of experience and all the resources to help you. please take her advice out of your own way. if you're gonna be successful you'll learn something from this show. >> this is so interesting and look, it also just underscores real estate, property ownership is still such a huge driver of wealth in this country. it can be for the smart investors backed by some smart property