ukraine yas, including thermobaric warheads. just like the pictures we just saw from eastern ukraine, they penetrate buildings with a fuel-air mixture before they detonate. they will definitely take care of people independence buildings. they won't get any protection. there will be tens of thousands of casualties if russia moves forward with this assault. even without moving, i want to underscore, an invasion. this is totally illegal. it is against international law. it is war criminal activity. and putin has to be held personally responsible. . >> do you think that the sanctions the u.s. has put forward, the actions by germany will deter putin from moving beyond the donetsk region? >> i don't think the sanctions themselves are likely to deter, but i think the combination of sanctions, ukraine's determined resistance, additional defensive equipment that will be provided to ukraine, and the prospect of