play into this selection process, and would it play in enough that even those six years make a difference? >> i don't think so. i think both of them are young enough to serve on the supreme court. i think that, for example, neil gor gorsuch, justice neil gorsuch was just going to turn 50 at the time he was named to the supreme court. justice kavanaugh as well, over 50. they're right there in the range, if anything, leondra kruger is young, so if there became another seat, she might be a contender again if she didn't get it this time. it is very interesting, because you -- i am already hearing from the two camps that kruger camp and the jackson camp and they are internal, i would say, democratic camps who each make a very good case for the person they want to see on the supreme court. >> i'm interested in the