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. >> one thing to make clear is that reporting from cnn that rudy giuliani was involved. boris epshteyn was talking about this the other day on tv. this really does get to the higher levels of trump's political world. the acknowledgment that there is an investigation into them significant in and of its. peter, something else is interesting, as you point out. the way this has come to light and the route this has taken is a little bit unusual. how so? . >> well, when you look at the source documents, these were found by a nonprofit information who posted the material back in march of last year. so the question is, you know, that was 11 months ago. and the question in my mind is what is it that has occurred, you know, between then and now. the underlying documents, the underlying events were not only public. but before they were released they had to be processed by the freedom of information act. so the government was aware of

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