i guess, let's just start with what were you seeing on the ground there? >> you know, it was very devastating. driving up to boulder, you can see this massive smoke plume, you saw smoke as far as 25 miles away in denver, it was ash was covering i-25, people trying to get out, just a really devastating scene all around. >> i mean, it's apocalyptic. colorado wildfires, western wildfires can be horrible, but in this kind of a densely populated suburban community, with 115-mile-an-hour winds, i don't think i've seen anything like it, have you? >> no, this is the nightmare scenario. people have talked about something like this happening in ever green, colorado, which is equally as densely populated but in the mountains. we don't see wildfires that come through a suburban type neighborhood. i grew up in the philadelphia area, it is like if a wildfire went through there and destroyed everything around it, it is unbelievable.