david frum and we looked at the polling numbers last hour here. the president's under water on the economy. which is interesting given that unemployment -- the unemployment rate is so low right now, gdp is high. the annual growth rate will be very high right now. you have experience both in the political world and in the world of finance and the economic world. why the disconnect between what people may be feeling and what the numbers are showing? >> yeah. i would say it's what you just said. people maybe are not feeling great at the moment because there's still so much uncertainty especially as it relates to covid. i think we're all sick of it, quite frankly. people have been dealing with masks, tests and covid for a long time. it doesn't feel great. on the flip side, as you say, the economy, you know, under this president's leadership, he has overseen the greatest resurgence in an economy in the first year in office, greater