right now this morning without bond. john? >> just goes to show the difference that two students can make, just by paying attention. got to tell somebody when you seeing some like that. nick valencia, thank you very much. >> you got it, john. today will be the ninth day that the father of a parkland shooting victim stands outside of the white house demanding a meeting with president biden. manuel oliver and his supporters say the biden administration needs to take unilateral urgent action to address gun violence. oliver says he'll go to the white house every day until the president agrees to meet with him and he's now with us. this father of parkland shooting victim joaquin oliver, the founder of change the ref.org. thank you for being with us again. we spoke with you in the beginning of this effort out in front of the white house last week. you have not had a meeting with the president. you did meet with a senior adviser cedric richmond. tell us about that conversation. >> i had a call, a phone call