these vaccines. we'll discuss the efficacy today. it'll be an ongoing discussion. i think that, again, after this meeting, it will be the beginning of a many series of meetings at the local level with everyone so that they can understand the true value of these vaccines. i don't expect that, you know, this meeting will convince 50% or more of the population to get vaccinated or to have their children vaccinated. i think, again, it's just the beginning of a number of conversations to be able to discuss these vaccines. >> dr. chen, can you talk to us about how the cdc is now pointing to this new research that shows immunity from the vaccine is more consistent than immunity from an infection. what can you tell us about this. >> yeah. there is data that is suggesting that, you know, when you vaccinate someone, it really seems to have, you know, a more predictable immune response, which is protective and long