what a jewel. eunice said to me, shoe talk to teddy. you should really include teddy in this whole thing. i said i totally agree with you. he's very experienced. i remember always what teddy kennedy said, don't get into details, arnold. and i listened to him very carefully. and that's exactly what we did. later when i was in office, we broke down the details. >> honestly, that's just part of it, right? it was so interesting to hear it all, dana. >> he went so much further than i thought he would in terms of talking about what was going on behind the scenes. that as somebody who is openly obsessed with the kennedy legacy. that fascinated me being from massachusetts and you as well. they couldn't be any more different in terms of politics. they knew my heart and who i