you're protected. what do you care if someone chooses not to get the vaccine? it doesn't affect you is how their argument goes. what's your answer to that? >> yeah, it sounds right as long as you don't really dig deep and think about it, because here's the problem. we all live in one country, one society. for instance, if you get large outbreaks of mostly unvaccinated people, they fill up hospitals. they have a hard time getting care. but everybody needs hospital care. you have a heart attack, a stroke, in a car accident, you need those i.c.u. beds and they're often not available. we're seeing that. that's one thing. also large outbreaks cause real economic damage. and that everybody suffers from. of course, obviously also unvaccinated people are our neighbors and friends, we ought to care for the most humane and basic reason. but they also live in our communities and have profound effects. i think this idea that somehow there will be large outbreaks of un -- among unvaccinated people and everybody else goes as