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and i think based on what we've heard about in terms of the coordination, we don't know any of the details of this between the u.s. forces and the taliban leaders, i think that's exactly what we're going to see. and i think that was certainly part of the diplomatic discussions by mr. burns yesterday when he talked to the taliban leaders. it is how do we get out without embarrassing the taliban? no one cares about that truthfully, but it also helps them to allow us to get out without more problems with our withdrawal. the last day of this withdrawal, if it is august the 31st, will be sporty. i guarantee you of that because you're talking about either drawing in the perimeter or just taking off the middle of the night or perhaps -- and i'll throw this out there, i'm not saying this will occur, but it could be a contested withdrawal as well. and what we're talking about there is the potential for conflict, fire fight, you know, whatever you might think may

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