in pennsylvania, no i.d. cards -- >> in afghanistan people get killed around elections. what the hell is he talking about? >> i mean he represents a lot of thinking out there right now. there's a lot of distrust in the elections. that is why when we talk about january 6th, it's not a past tense event. like this threat, this movement is active. it is ongoing. you know, i keep thing about what's going on in arizona with this fraud as they call it. essentially if you have the resources and the money, you can seize the ballot. there's going to be election machines destroyed as a result of conspiracy theories where they want to count, count, and recount, to have a reason to overthrow the election. at some point you have to worry is this sabotage? i mean if you can break election machines and take them offline through this kind of mass thinking, i mean, conspiracy theories, people like to discount it, but they have real