the state level and federal election. i think when we were on the campaign trail and he was thinking about who was going to be his vice president, he wanted to be able to give someone like a kamala harris who was from the judiciary committee who had an understanding how to move this legislation, even when they didn't have the majority when she was senator. i do think this is an important portfolio. i don't want to compare immigration to voting rights, but you have to have voting rights to be able to do immigration reform because people have to be able to go to the ballot and vote for people who are going to put these policies in place. i think she can be up to the job. >> let's be honest, kirsten. a lot of this comes down to two moderate senators, joe manchin from west virginia and kyrsten sinema of arizona, and it appears the president had a bit of a message for them yesterday. let's listen. >> sock puppets? >> i know.