mean, he was very -- he was physically ill and emotionally exhausted when he left the office of president of the united states in 1974 and nearly died that fall. every president who's been impeached feels he's in a struggle with history. for the rest of time they're going to be struggling, actually fighting this over and over again to prove to the public and to history, whoever history is, that they were wrongfully accused. so this is the gung beginning o struggle. president trump has had this struggle. he's been fighting with history since the start, to the extent that he cares about it. this is a battle forever that he is about to wage. >> i'm sure with bill clinton beating impeachment is worse than being convicted and thrown out of office, yet it sticks with you is what you're saying. >> he will be in that select -- there's a president's club, and that's a great club to be part of. this impeachment club is not a great club to be part of. it's not a club you want to join and it's a club you can never