say, no, wait a second here. these regulations are perfectly reasonable. we went too far in 2008. >> john roberts is the person who will answer that question personally. because i don't think there's any doubt that four justices will say this gun regulation is perfectly appropriate. the four more liberal will say this is appropriate. and the four more conservative, thomas, alito, kavanaugh, gorsuch will say this is impermissible. i think this will be decided by john roberts. john roberts voted with the majority in 2008. so he is the second amendment supporter. how far does he want to go with it? >> even could expanded background checks be blocked by a decision like this? >> i don't think this case itself will make background checks impossible. but i think if the second amendment continues to grow, if