at an hbcu, one of our leading, an award, the good news is that they were able to get the course corrected, the sponsor was removed, senator harris attended and i have to tell you, the facts bear out, she -- her protests led to the changing of the rules. >> so you think she won this at the end? >> i think the hbcus won it at the end. you do know, i mean, how do you invite the president of the united states and only ten students from benedict college are in the audience. no questions he took, no questions that were posed to him. for the candidates that attended on saturday they have to sit and take questions from the students and exchange with them. that's what the academy is about. this is not about a press release, not about using these individuals for photographs and then using those in campaigns. this is about engaging in a serious and honest conversation with the communities who have, quite frankly, been in the cross hairs of this administration. >> the president did sign into law the act that van jones