many of these nations and terrorist groups want to use our citizens as political pawns and leverage and but i'm so hopeful that we can now find them and bring them home. >> and diane, for your family personally, you've waited for this for a long time ever since james was abducted in 2012 and killed in 2014, and does this give your family some measure of justice or closure? >> well, certainly it does. i agree with the president that it protects our world. this man was out to kill many, many more westerners for sure. but i think it's very important that the isis fighters in custody be brought to trial, particularly the british jihadist, the beatles as they were called who tortured and killed the four americans and