right now in stuff that's just a head wind. and now they say they have been talking about payroll tax cuts. >> after they denied it. >> right. so they lied about that. >> and it's -- look. what we had heard was this was a great "washington post" scoop. and they got sort of kicked in the knees by the white house immediately. in fact, that story was true. as often happens. the president sends aides out to say something is false then he confirms it later on. it's not surprising that they are looking at what tools there are to try to juice the economy given the warning signs that they are seeing. most people around the president will say, you know, any sense of a panic or a scramble is overstated. but they certainly are looking at what they can do over the next 14 months. he knows and his advisers know just on sort of an elemental level, his re-election depends not entirely but in part on what the feelings are about the economy. >> and do we have any idea of when they got this idea to -- because i asked peter navarro on