make myself music i like made me feel. you know. lewis armstrong and ella fitzgerald and i want to feel that way. >> the act of singing. was it joyful? >> well, it was something because people used to turn around when i'd sing. you know, in school, you're supposed to pretend to sing. but i was going let's sing. you know? because my family sang. so i sang with my older brother, who was in the tucson arizona boys choir. he was wonderful. >> and he taught you about vibrato. >> yeah, he did. we just knew how to sing harmony. we used to sing in the back of the car. used to sing with our hands in the dish water. i think everybody should do their own singing. you don't have to be a professional. you don't have to delegate your sorrows to professionals. >> you don't have to delegate your sorrows. >> some music is just for privacy, you know, it's just something you sing in your