said, they've never really denied they were working in this direction, but this is irrefutable prove. gives you dates, times and shows this was a white house effort all along. more importantly, it takes you very, you know, really, right to the door of the oval office, and for the president to claim he didn't know what was going on, i think this sort of gets rid of any lingering doubts that there might have been isn't rogue operation that giuliani was being overzealous or the secretary of state wasn't keeping the president fully informed what was going on. >> when we look at these two headlines today, shan, i'm curious as to if the democrats' deadline of christmas and this impeachment going through by then if that's realistic now? i mean, aren't these two elements that would now have to be reconciled somehow? that would have to be certainly either confirmed in some capacity? >> i think they could keep to