to say, kristin, for the acting chief of staff. >> no, martin, it does not. and it came on the same day he defied a subpoena to testify. there were two important white house officials fiona hill and ukrainian expert lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. both of them in these transcripts that paint mulvaney in the center of this ukrainian testimony. i think fiona hill lays it out best saying that sondland in front of ukrainians as i came in was talking about how he had an agreement with chief of staff mulvaney for a meeting with ukrainians if they were going to go forward with investigations. key words there. and my director for ukraine was looking completely alarmed. clearly here, laying out -- and