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we appreciate you sharing part of your sunday with us. this most recent ruling doesn't affect the status of current daca recipients, but it is a reminder that this program is sort of temporary. even obama when he put it in place recognized this would likely be struck down by the courts. being a daca recipient yourself, what was your reaction when you heard the news? >> well, good morning, boris. so great to be with you this morning. i would describe the experience as gut-wrenching. we knew that there was a conservative judge in texas and a republican strategy that has been driven for years now to undo the daca program. and what i'll say is daca is legal. the president has the ability to do that, but as a daca recipient, to see your life be debated every year almost and to see politicians take advantage of what has been the most gut-wrenching experience for undocumented young people for

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