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seeing and they will likely have some political repercussions. you said democratic mayors, councilmen and district attorneys have the power to course correct if they have the courage and political will to do so. if they don't, democrats will pay a price at the polls. what are these city leaders not doing? and portend for us what the democratic party looks like if they can't puncture these problems. and why is it primarily on democrats, you say? >> well, because they control the major cities. i think former -- congresswoman abigail spanberger said it pretty well after the 2020 election, she said, all this defund the police rhetoric nearly cost her her virginia seat in 2020. i think that they have to get serious not about defunding, but refunding the police. i think they have to enforce quality of life crimes. that's essential. but most important of all, you know, crime victim services, community policing is not a new idea. need to do that. but at the end of the day they need to support their officers.

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