but it's clear that even if they are hardly a democratically elected government in a country that we strived and failed to make democratic, that the taliban are going to be running the place, and if we are going to get aid to the afghan people who are suffering greatly, we are going to have to do it through the taliban. we are not going to have another choice. and so it's going to be a very delicate thing to figure out how you actually establish a working relationship with the taliban, and the taliban clearly, because so much of their own budget is going to be dependent on aid from around the world, is going to be hankering for that recognition. >> right. so that's the thing. we know that the taliban desperately wants world recognition. they are getting it to some degree. they are getting recognition. i mean, people are watching them when it comes to what is happening with women in that country. we know this faction of women who stayed there, who have