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think, well, he's at least in the returning. for them to say he's not fit at all, he doesn't belong here at all, a very tough argument compared to what people say. there's inflation. that's front of line for voters. the fact of whether or not he belongs there is a bit of a proposition. >> i want to ask you about an important race where you are right now where a few weeks ago it wasn't much of a race at all, governor kathy hochul running for re-election against lee zeldin in new york, zeldin really making this a race. did it surprise you how close this got. >> i thought the polls would tighten a little bit. the momentum has shifted dramatically from where it had been, but this is a case, boris, where there are a lot of firsts going on. kathy hochul is the first governor of new york state. we haven't had a sitting

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