managers. listen. >> i think it's a plan that is going to create great incentives and i think a plan that will make people happy, other than maybe the hedge fun guys who make hundreds of millions of dollars and pay little tax. those guys will not exactly love me. >> let's break this down with ben ferguson. good to have you back. >> good to be here. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. >> i want you to listen to with what former president bill clinton told fareed zakaria. >> i got to ask you about donald trump ps as a great student of american politics, what explains donald trump? >> well, first of all, he's a master brander and when you got a lot of people running and people are trying to make distinctions, being able to put a personal stamp on it so people identify with who you are