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i'm just explaining to you what i saw and what i've experienced. look, while i was there, i had an experience with one of the people there as an african-american. i went to go shake their hand and the guy kind of winced and stuck his hand out and shook my hand and rubbed the back of my hand as if my skin color is going to go off. i later chatted with him for a while to find that i was the first african-american person's hand that he ever shook and the images of african-americans that they have, they are not that great. then the next day after we talk for a while, he came up to me and said he was sorry. you know, there's a lot that happened on that trip above and beyond playing a match and i'm only sharing with you my experiences, good, bad or indifferent. it was just something that i experienced. >> well, one of the things that i know you had said when you came back was dennis rodman

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