u.s. government officials? and the answer lies in a mcclachey article today that i hope everybody googles and reads that describes how the obama administration is waging an unprecedented war on whistleblowers and leakers inside the government, equating them with enemies of the united states and has prosecuted them more aggressively than any prior president in history. and i think that's what we ought to be asking is why a whist whistleblow whistleblower's been treated so perniciously, such persecution, and why does he feel a need to flee the united states. >> glenn, let me ask you this. we see edward snowden referred to as a whistleblower in some reports, a leaker in another. what's the difference? >> well, i think a whistleblower is somebody who exposes things that ought to be exposed in terms of what the most powerful political officials in the country are doing, either wrongdoing on their part, illegality or just deceit. and if you read "the new york times" this morning which summarizes what it is that we learned from our reports in "the guardian" thus far, what you'll