reaction he got when everybody was gone, that he might have backed off a little bit and still called this a search and recovery. >> it sounds as though he was saying these families have asked me not to give up hope. and he's not saying, he believes people are still alive. however, in respect to these families and to honor their wishes, we as a whole cannot give up hope that perhaps somebody is alive for their sakes? >> i agree. i think he's probably decided until they find some evidence that the airport is down, it's going to remain a search and recovery. >> even despite the words of his boss, the prime minister said, it's over. all lives have lost. >> right. >> okay. all right. >> retired airline pilot john ransom, thank you so much for staying with us. if you have any question s to ask him, via twitter, ask us