to tell his republicans that they are are locked in an epic battle and they should hang tough meanwhile president obama continues with his mantra which is bass the budget and end the shutdown. victor. >> jill dougherty reporting from the white house. let's face it politicians and frankly most of us are much more candid when the cameras and microphones aren't around. >> oh, are they despite the obvious camera and the obvious microphone, watch this. >> i'm all wired up here. >> i just did cnn, i just go over and over again, we're willing to negotiate. i don't think they poll tested that we're willing to negotiate. i think it's awful to say that over and over again. >> i do, too. i just came back with that two-hour meeting with him and that was basically the same