but it also means different things. these two guys represent something in different parties. they're trying to get to the same thing in different ways. let's bring in political anchor and errol louis. let's but up the number, does it bother you that ted cruz was born in the united states, in iowa, because that's the context? is this helping or hurting in iowa? look, it's not a big factor, errol, but it means something else in the narrative, right? the narrative matters just as much. what is at stake here and and what's the play? >> i think what donald trump is trying to do, i've been saying this all along, sort of distract off the issues, push everyone else off the stage and get one-on-one with the main attacker. whoever gets closer in the polls, he kind of goes after that person. what this mean, there's been a lot of immigrant bashing. i'm not sure how you describe