from the beginning, counterterror officials, law enforcement officials, looking at all of these things, multiple shooters, the weapons that they had, this speaks to forward planning. they don't know the motive, but to them, very early on, it didn't look like a crime of passion. but then you have this confusion because he was at that holiday party. there's talk of a possible dispute. you and i covered these things, crimes of passion, very rarely do you have the weapons stashed. you come up with military gear, an escape plan, et cetera. these are hard questions that got to be answered. >> there's no question about it. and it's been very tough from these guys from the beginning. remember, they got a call this was at the developmental center. there are people develop mentally valued there. and they found out it was the