a lot of money is committed. a lot of the staff is committed. it is an uphill battle. i think even for the vice president, i think he knows that very well. and you know, i think hillary clinton has a tremendous base of support. there's a reason why the republican party has for years tried to focus on and attack and tear down hillary clinton. because they know she will pull strength from republican women and republican moderates across the board. she's pragmatic. she's progressive. she knows how to get things done. i think the vice president has to do what he believes in his heart is the right thing to do. he'll have a really tough fight. >> let me jump back to a word you said a second ago, late. you jumped in late in september. it's october. he has yet to declare again. perhaps in the next couple of days. how much of this moving forward, we all know, he's the vice president of our country. we all know who joe biden is. it's not a name recognition
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