out of the man, publicly humiliate the man. >> same thing ben carson is going through right now. >> ben carson said something incredibly stupid. >> no, he did not. >> i would have bet money you would have said that. it's not about whether it's stupid. it's about whether that's what you want in a leader. it's not about article 6. it's about whether you want someone as your leader who thinks all muslims should not be taken serious for president. >> if a muslim disavowed that -- >> do you think ben carson said -- >> he said my faith is not in my public life in regards to kim davis. it guides had him in the sense that his relationship with god guides him in his personal life. >> distinction without a difference? >> no. i don't think it's a distinction without a difference. he would not support a muslim let's say, he would allow, permit, not have a problem with