to force him. is that a trap for him? >> i don't think so? >> he said in the past, we have to figure out how people who should be here can be here. finding a path to citizenship. itis not in it. >> he does say that. he says they are going to leave. he wants to figure out how to make the policy easier for them to come back. they have to be good for america. what this will do is help to clean out all the problems that we have with the illegal immigration. >> but, is he just playing strong or our his ideas not as severe as they come across here? >> donald trump doesn't play. he doesn't play. >> what does that mean? >> he's not playing politics. this is what he believes. if he believes it, he is putting it out there as he said he would. >> you are saying, donald trump, with the politics, what is it?