>> no no. it should not have. i mean you always have inmates that want to get out of prison one way or the other. so you're always going to have that threat. but there should have been oversight to prevent those inmates from doing what they did. >> from what you've heard so far, the main charge seems to be there was a culture of laxity going on and that they had prisoners who should have been under very careful watch who were not. >> but that's always been a danger in prisons. you have human beings watching other human beings. so there can be a break down in being vigilant. but that's why it's supposed to be a layered system with different people watching the system so that if one person is lax, the other person the supervisor, the sergeant would be able to step up and speak to his men and tell them they need