think that the former governor of maryland the former mayor of baltimore, given what's going on in baltimore, is it wise? is it prudent of him? is it a lack of judgment for him to decide to run now? and also to announce that possibility in baltimore? >> no. i think you've got to own who you are and your experience. i think the real question will be how does he actually turn his experience into a national campaign asset? how does he define his campaign in contrast to hillary clinton's? it's very unusual to have a mayor. and he was a successful mayor, run for president. but he's got to own that experience. and then own the recent history in baltimore to make a national point that makes him relevant. right now he's been kicking around iowa but hasn't been gaining real traction. >> he's also had -- talk about a faceplant. here's a guy who was the mayor of baltimore. by many people in baltimore blamed for a lot of the policys that have led to this place. he had an opportunity. he was in europe when baltimore was on fire. came back had an opportunity to really make it a campaign backdrop and try to play real