we need to talk about race and community relations, we need to talk about training and those conversations are conversations that need to take place now. they needed to take place ten years ago. but again, this brand that we're concerned about, the false narrative we're concerned about shouldn't be what defines us, that's what we're saying, you have a right to say it, that doesn't mean i have to like it or agree with it as a brand. i think we're stuck with it, though, chris. >> you understand it's not just about the mike brown shooting. it's been adopted about the concerns across the country, yes? >> sure, of course i do. and so does the rest of the department, there's no doubt about that. >> when you say it's a false narrative, you're construing it very narrowly to what happened with mike brown and your reckoning of the facts as we understand them in that case. how is it a false narrative even with respect to mike brown? >> because it relies almost totally on the testimony of dorian johnson, he is the cyb single-most discredited witness. >> you know the witness sheet