agenda this issue of marriage. we'll talk about pastoral care of marriage. he said about women. he goes i think it should be more than tokenism. i don't think its eye just having altar girls or making them heads of committees. they need real leadership positions.altar girls or makings of committees. they need real leadership positions. >> but not priests. >> john paul ii closed the door that and won't open it. it's complicated. john paul ii made it almost dock trip. so this pope isn't going to say for get what john paul said, we'll do something else. it will happen much more slowly than that if it happens. >> fair to say he has to continue talking about it, bringing it up, though. you can't just bring it up once and walk away otherwise you raise expectations and then drop them. >> most definitely. and what i was interested in is