one of the assistant secretaries of defense, mccarthy, kept saying, well, it's hard and it takes time, i need to talk to my boss and i haven't had a chance to go see him -- it was really a delay. and then by the time we spoke to the acting secretary of defense, well, we're -- this or that. >> did it make sense to you that they were delaying? >> no, it was inexplicable. made no sense at all. they'd say -- and it is hard to activate the national guard, you have to start early. they said they had the authority here but they didn't have the permission to exercise it. >> is that why you think the january 6th commission is so important, to find out exactly what happened one year ago today here? >> the facts and the whole thing, the setup, what happened before and what happened during. that's very important. and what's happening after. so, it's the before, the during, and the after. but the fact is that the p