headlines. >> what is elusion and who's being fooled by the art? is it the artist or his audience or both? >> this city is like an open sewer. >> right through that last scene, i was loving taxi driver because up until that point, the relationship between de niro has been electric. >> gene was a natural. he was one of the people who could talk to the camera. he had a huge handlebar mustache, and i just said, that is a funny-looking thing on your face, get rid of it. >> i thought these two guys would never be on television. these are unusual, odd-looking characters for the median tv that's all beautifully clothed and beautiful teeth and everything's fine. and they dress like a couple of clowns if they wore these outfits today. you couldn't make siskel and ebert if you were dr. frankenstein. >> we both thought of ourselves as full service, one stop film