guess. >> sixth time the charm. at the same time there are other couples in your predicament, particularly the plaintiff in the case that landed kim in a jail cell, she said she never wanted that to happen. she didn't want kim to go to jail. she just wanted her rights. do you feel the same way? >> oh, yes. we didn't -- all we wanted was the marriage license. we wanted to apply -- it was very important for us. if she would have resigned we would have been just as happy. the jail wasn't a part of it. we didn't want that. we just wanted the license. we wanted this happy day. >> and i know that there are people behind you. i'm looking at the shot of you sort of between the two of you i can see a big crowd. you can certainly look back if you want to refamiliarize yourselves with what's going on.