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reason that you were chasing him unless you're telepathic. so she's not impressed with that excuse either nor are the rest of us. it looks very much like this was an arrest without probable cause and without reasonably articulateble suspicion. >> in all fairness to the other side on this as they gather more facts and like you said it is critical before speculating why they went after this arrest, there was one report the they had seen that part of the knife clipped to the inner belt of mr. gray, perhaps that coupled with the fact that he ran or perhaps the fact these officers may or may not have known anything about his past, there are all sorts of factors that in a cocktail may have added to what they thought was probable cause but without us knowing that, it's unfair to say they did or didn't have it. mr. murphy, thank you so much for being on the program today. i hope you'll speak with us as this case widens out and more it facts become available, sir. >> i will. >> thank you. appreciate it. i should let you know we've

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