work with the bbc and perhaps just innately, he knew how to talk about a very complicated topic in a way which would appeal to journalists. as a consequence, our work became much better defused, much better known. glen was great at communicating. that's we he was a communicator, that's why he was a spokesman. thanks to him, our stories were picked up much more than they probably otherwise would have been. that meant that important public health messages were widely defused. >> gregly, to have so many from the hiv/aids community working on finding a cure, working on finding treatment, working on prep, to have them killed like this, what kind of an impact do you think this has globally on the hiv/aids community? >> well, it's a bit difficult to say unfortunately for me because i don't work in the aids area.