yeah, you can set off a bomb, you can rob us of four beautiful people, but you will not rob us of our spirit. >> in a way, it actually wound up doing the opposite of its intention. instead of making them weaker, it made them stronger, it made them show what they're all about. >> 100, 100%. >> i think it's important to ignore the people who do the bad things. you don't want to give attention to their existence. you don't want to give any sense of validation if you don't have to. plenty of people say their names. i've made a choice early on not to. interestingly, we met -- krystle campbell is one of the four people who lost their lives. sean collier, police officer, campus security guard, was taken in a shootout with the assailants later on. the grandma of krystal campbell, i talked to a few days after krystel was lost. her message is, listen, we've