microphone live. the atlanta mayor, kasim reed, who did the interview you just witnessed effectively saying this was a series of independent decisions. this was not his problem. you tell that to the people not able to watch the live news conference. they are sitting like that, stuck and unable to go anywhere. i want to bring in my colleague, carol costello. lieutenant general, russell onere, we know so well as being ably in control of the hurricane katrina. >> hats off for you for not going aploplectic. he said he had no problem getting into the interview. there were still people trapped and we only heard the last of children stuck on buses reunited. tell me more about his demeanor