he is a bush 43 appointee. he refused post-conviction release. they wanted them released on their own recognizance. one of the defendants wanted to sing a couple peace songs. the judge said, no, you are not going to perform in my courtroom. he did allow them to all be sentenced together, which is something they requested. >> no release post conviction either. wow. this judge is tough. let us know and break into programming when you do find out, joe. >> i'll do my best. >> thank you, joe johns. our senior washington correspondent reporting for us live. joey jackson is here with his take. the first thing that came to mind with the smiling 84-year-old nun. what about a lifetime of service, what about character references. there have got to be a myriad of character references that were available. would that matter when the crime is this serious? >> the judge has discretion and the judge could downwardly depart. here is how it works in a nutshell. under the federal guidelines,